{"id":245,"date":"2021-05-08T20:58:26","date_gmt":"2021-05-08T20:58:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.valleau.art\/blog\/?p=245"},"modified":"2021-05-08T20:58:26","modified_gmt":"2021-05-08T20:58:26","slug":"how-long-will-my-drive-last","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/how-long-will-my-drive-last\/","title":{"rendered":"How long will my drive last?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>3 years, on average.<\/p>\n<p>OK, if it&#8217;s warranted by the manufacturer to last three years, it should last three years. If it&#8217;s warranted for 5, it should last 5. You can add maybe as much as a year if you never turn it off, but remember, the warrantee is only as long as it is.<\/p>\n<p>Does that sound awfully definitive? And, How Do You Know?<\/p>\n<p>OK: I&#8217;ve been at this for over 30 years now, usually with 4 or five computers at a time, and certainly always with several (sometimes dozens) of backup drives. Servers on 24\/7 and my desktops on 15\/24.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what I do with my desktops: turn them on first thing in the morning; turn them off last thing at night. That means they are off about 9 hours a day. This pattern is 365 days a year.<\/p>\n<p>How long do my drives last? 3 years. Every now and then a few months longer. I don&#8217;t recall shorter (unless they went out in the first 60 days&#8230; and there have only been two of those.) Maybe 6 months longer in a 24\/7 server.<\/p>\n<p>Still, being terminally curious, I called an actual drive engineer at (it was) Maxtor (at the time) and asked her specifically about the warm-up \/ cool-down cycle, and how that affected the drive life. (It was not easy to reach a real engineer. They don&#8217;t like to take calls from the general public.) I explained how I cycled my drives on and off, and asked if leaving them on would make them last longer or less. Was I gaining 9 x 365 hours by turning them off?<\/p>\n<p>Her answer was simple: &#8220;We consider all that when we anticipate drive life. If you turn them on and off, yes, it will reduce drive life&#8230; but by just about the amount of time you actually have them off &#8211; about 1\/3 of a day, due to the stress on the bearing, mostly. So what that means is that if you turn your machine on and off once a day, the drive will last about three years. And if you leave the drive on 24\/7 it will last about 3 years.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Think about it: we&#8217;re not going to get into a situation where we are constantly underestimating or overestimating our warrantee period,&#8221; she said. &#8220;Either way, it would cost us money.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So there you are. My own anecdotal evidence and the word straight from the horse&#8217;s mouth.<\/p>\n<p>My working assumption ever since is this: turning on a cold drive and letting it fully warm up, and then shutting it off equals about 8 hours of wear. Yes: that means your removable drives for backups and so on. Yes: if you turn it on and off and on and off and on and off, warming up and cooling off several times a day, you are probably shortening the drive life. (That might just explain why notebook drives don&#8217;t seem to last as long, eh?)<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;<\/p>\n<p>Finally, people ask me, well then, why do you turn off your computer at night? Well, 1) if you read closely above, you&#8217;ll find that in terms of drive life, it really doesn&#8217;t make any difference, and 2) because 9 x 365 saves me $235 per year in electricity.<\/p>\n<p>LATER&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Wow! Did I ever get a bunch of passionate letters telling me what an idiot I am for proclaiming &#8220;that drives will last for 3 years.&#8221; Well, first, I didn&#8217;t. I said that it will last, on average, as long as the manufacture thinks it will last. That&#8217;s hardly news.<\/p>\n<p>Many people said &#8220;but mine have lasted 10 years!&#8221; Well, if you only turn on your computer for 20 minutes every week, they should last for 20 years, eh? &#8220;You&#8217;re full of it. I&#8217;ve had them fail inside a year.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sigh. What part of reality did you miss?<\/p>\n<p>Interesting the passions this silly subject evokes&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>You could say the same thing about anything physical\/mechanical.<\/p>\n<p>Cars? Refrigerators? Airplanes? Washing machines?<\/p>\n<p>Drives are mere mechanical devices. They have a serviceable life expectancy, just like cars and refrigerators. Some people&#8217;s cars last for 600,000 miles; some last for 28. So what? Does that mean we can&#8217;t ask about life expectancy? Does that mean that all such questions are useless?<\/p>\n<p>Of course not. It&#8217;s an expectation, not a guarantee!<\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking, how long will a hard drive last? On average, as long as its warranty. (about right) Generally speaking, how long will a car last? On average, as long as its warranty. (These days, 100,000 miles.) Generally speaking, how long will a refrigerator last? On average, as long as its warranty. (often longer, fortunately)<\/p>\n<p>I think that understanding that your drive will likely last about X amount of time IS useful information. No one is -guaranteeing- how long it will last; no one is suggesting that life expectancy is an excuse for failing to backup; no one is even suggesting that drives won&#8217;t fail prematurely or last 5 years longer than average.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s what &#8220;average&#8221; means, after all. Hard drives have no more random failure than anything else.<\/p>\n<p>I think the passion connected to drive life is more associated with the trauma associated with the loss of precious data when a drive goes south, and you have no recent (or any) backup.<\/p>\n<p>The other thing is that my example of cars etc, are products that don&#8217;t totally, completely, die &#8211; they wear out &#8211; and remain useable after the warranty. Hard drives (for the most part) either work or they don&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>One writer calls drives &#8220;a crapshoot&#8221; a sentiment with which others apparently agree.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s my experience that a 1 year warrantied drive won&#8217;t last as long as a 5 year one. That&#8217;s useful information to me.<\/p>\n<p>If you think not, then you should buy the cheapest drives you can find. However, I think it&#8217;s fair to say (and quite likely) that your experiences are going to be less satisfactory if you do.<\/p>\n<p>Just like buying cars or refrigerators or anything mechanical.<\/p>\n<p>People make the mistake of thinking I&#8217;m saying that their specific drive will last three years. How could I possibly know that? It&#8217;s an average.<\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking (on average) there are 12 hours of daylight. Specifically speaking, only 2 days out of 365 actually have exactly 12 hours of daylight. Will your specific, individual 3-year warrantied drive last three years? I can&#8217;t possibly say&#8230; but I can say that on average, it will.<\/p>\n<p>YMMV.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>3 years, on average. OK, if it&#8217;s warranted by the manufacturer to last three years, it should last three years. If it&#8217;s warranted for 5, it should last 5. You can add maybe as much as a year if you never turn it off, but remember, the warrantee is only as long as it is. 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