{"id":291,"date":"2021-05-08T21:43:39","date_gmt":"2021-05-08T21:43:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.valleau.art\/blog\/?p=291"},"modified":"2021-05-08T21:43:39","modified_gmt":"2021-05-08T21:43:39","slug":"archiving-and-storing-email","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/archiving-and-storing-email\/","title":{"rendered":"Archiving and storing email"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Folks who are concerned about email retention (as I am) might find this interesting:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.mothsoftware.com\/<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Like MailSteward (MS), &lt;http:\/\/mailsteward.com\/&gt; this software archives emails to an external database.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>MailSteward does it automatically, at a scheduled interval you can set (or you can invoke it manually). All mail goes into either its own internal SQLite database, or into your machine&#8217;s larger mySQL database. It works with Apple&#8217;s Mail only.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mothsoftware&#8217;s Mail Archiver X (MAX) does not (yet &#8211; it&#8217;s planned) support scheduled backups, requiring that you do it yourself, although the process, once setup is trivial.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The advantages however are significant, at least to me:<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Archives emails from the following formats: Entourage, Eudora, Mail, Outlook, Postbox, Powermail, Thunderbird, and standard mbox.<\/p>\n<p>\u2022 Exports emails to the following formats: Valentina (native), Filemaker, PDF, mbox, mySQL, Text, or XML.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>MAX has a built-in browser for its own Valentina DB and comes with a free browser for FileMaker. (PDF, mBox, mySQL et al all have easily obtainable and free browsers.)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>That internal browser for Valentina makes sticking with the MAX Valentina DB the most convenient solution.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I only just got MAX and so don&#8217;t have lots of experience with it. I did verify that it performs as advertised above however.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been using MS, and it&#8217;s been 100% reliable and very useful when I need to find an old email, but when you hit 60,000 emails or so, you&#8217;ll start reaching the limits of SQLite, and have to pony up for the &#8220;real database&#8221; version of MS, which uses mySQL and costs $100 ($50 upgrade fee, I think.) (MS prices are $25, $50 and $100.)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Either one, MAX or MS, \u00a0will allow you to keep the mail client&#8217;s own database small (because once you&#8217;ve archived email, you can delete it from the mail program), and the email program will therefore be more responsive, and less trouble to navigate.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Either one will export the database, so you can easily back it up (although restoring mySQL is a bit of a pain.)<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The other advantage to MAX over MS is the price: it&#8217;s only $35.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Once the developer gets scheduling going, it seems that it&#8217;s going to be hard to justify MS much longer&#8230; but I&#8217;ll have to play with MAX for a while to be sure about that.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>As it now stands, the MAX advantages are significant enough for me to seriously consider it&#8230; if for no other reason than that it will let me play with other email clients with impunity.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Bottom line between the two: MS is geeky and not &#8220;Mac-like&#8221; while MAX does a better job of being more friendly, and versatile.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>LATER\u2026 HOWEVER\u2026 MAX is very slow at finding information if the original source is buried in levels of folders. For example, while MS can find almost anything in under a second, MAX takes 12x as long &#8211; on my modest 24,000 messages, it takes 12 seconds to return a list of finds.<\/p>\n<p>and so\u2026 I went back to Mail Steward.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>hth<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Tracy<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Folks who are concerned about email retention (as I am) might find this interesting: \u00a0 http:\/\/www.mothsoftware.com\/ \u00a0 Like MailSteward (MS), &lt;http:\/\/mailsteward.com\/&gt; this software archives emails to an external database. \u00a0 MailSteward does it automatically, at a scheduled interval you can set (or you can invoke it manually). All mail goes into either its own internal [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-291","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mac-tips"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/291","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=291"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/291\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":292,"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/291\/revisions\/292"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=291"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=291"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/valleau.art\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=291"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}